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assassin of the god · Apr 24, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Starting out monking with a heal monk is gunna teach you how to push red bars up and maybe manage your energy while doing it. nothing else. I could go on for days about things you might be screwing up, but I can't really tell being I haven't played with you.Probbably positioning. In any case , try to prot monk alot more, and watch the battle more then the health bars, and you will learn alot about positioning, protting, and kiting then you can tell while healing.If all else fails, next time you get kicked out of a group, ask exactly what you were doing wrong, and then ask around about that priticular thing, because saying "I died, what am I doing wrong?" on a forum generally won't help you much. Also,tombs is shitty, and a bad place to learn, consider GvG.

baaba · Apr 24, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Siviz Quiwinn

Ok so Ive been doing HA recently and I have a major monk problem. When in HA, I heal just fine in the first battle against the Zaishens, no matter what build I use. However on the next battle against real players I also heal just fine. Problem is, I get spiked EVERY time (meaning each char gangs up on me) and then my team tells me I suck. So um, what can I do to prevent from getting spiked?

I have been monking since forever. It seems like you are having trouble with spike builds. Let me share some tips with you. (I assume you are on vent/ts with your group.)

1. Sometimes it wasn't mainly your problem that you get spike if you didn't over extended. It might be your teammates that were over extended and you have to go heal them.

Healing monk should never over extended. You rather let that teammate die. The prt monk should be the one that's saving him while you are still behind.

2. The attackers should call for spike. What I mean is the attackers in your team should alert you a spike is coming so you can be ready. You will always have faster healing when you are more ready.

3. The prt monk should pre-prt before your team is going in. They may have enchantment removal but it will make it easier to detect spike.

4. Many monks look at the party member screen bar too much. Sometimes you should watch more on your position. Better yet, if you can, watch your own spike that's coming to you.

For example, if their spike rely on the warrior, watch where's the warrior going.

5. You have to at least know 90% of the spike builds that people are running nowadays. You have to understand the casting and recharge time.

If the spike is every 20 secs, after you save the first spike, save your energy within that 20 secs for the next one.

Those are some little tips you can go for when you are inside. GL.

elektra_lucia · Apr 25, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

You don't need vent or for someone to say, infact it'd be more of a distraction. Also I don't get the business with any build helas fine except when you're spiked... Sounds like you arn't running a good build, I could be wrong...

Anyways just run :

arcane echo
mending
echo
channeling
blessed signet.

You don't need to use the other skill slots, don't put a res signet on a monk ever. You might have to cast mending. It'll save them spikes too.

Just bitch at other monk if your mending drops, he should have it too, kay kay?

stash · Apr 26, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by Randomway Ftw

You may also want to PM Legendary Dryder, if you want to be the best at infusing.

Yes Legendary Dryder infuses catapult with heal party, PD's PD, and Dshots Dshots, ive seen it ><

Div · Apr 26, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

You don't need vent or for someone to say, infact it'd be more of a distraction. Also I don't get the business with any build helas fine except when you're spiked... Sounds like you arn't running a good build, I could be wrong...

Anyways just run :

arcane echo
mending
echo
channeling
blessed signet.

You don't need to use the other skill slots, don't put a res signet on a monk ever. You might have to cast mending. It'll save them spikes too.

Just bitch at other monk if your mending drops, he should have it too, kay kay?

That bar sucks. It's not even worth running in PvP. To be a good PvP bar you also need life attunement, holy wrath, and judge's intervention. With life attunement your mending becomes more effective, and you can help your damage spike the other guys with holy wrath and judge's. Time to get another glad point with that build...

RhanoctJocosa · Apr 28, 2007, 10:00 AM // 10:00

First few jokes were funny, but then it just got lame. Instead of being pricks, why not give the OP some advice?

Imo, if you are learning to monk HA isn't the best place to do it. Despite it being more challenging, monking in random is better for you because you are more able to "heal beyond red bars", i.e. you tend to look more at what's happening because there are less players. E.g, you learn to prioritize heals and spread prot with respect to what's happening (Avvy of Lyssa dervs < SB for example).

About you being spiked, your whole team needs to help against the spike. I.e, your team needs to be interrupting, kding and body blocking during spikes. Ofc you need to pre-kite too.

swift88 · Apr 30, 2007, 05:49 AM // 05:49

tbh the best thing u can do against spike is. pray that other 2 monk partner of your aren't noob and since u said u "heal" tell them to put on ps on u as much as they can. also. spiritbonder can save u from gettin spiked. so yeah.. pretty much u just have to rely on your partners.

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Apr 30, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Well you need pre-prot, and in some cases like being too far up (dunno how this would happen as a monk) it could be your fault, but I doubt it. If it's a spike, all 3 monks need to be good, period. The chances of this happening in a non-r9+ pug are somewhere between zero and -1.

Llint · May 01, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by Gimme Money Plzkthx

Well you need pre-prot, and in some cases like being too far up (dunno how this would happen as a monk) it could be your fault, but I doubt it. If it's a spike, all 3 monks need to be good, period. The chances of this happening in a non-r9+ pug are somewhere between zero and -1.

Chance of that happening in any pug no matter rank is between -1 and -2. Its just not happening.

Yichi · May 01, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by Gimme Money Plzkthx

Well you need pre-prot, and all 3 monks need to be good, period. This does not happening in a pug 99.999999999% of the time, no matter what their rank is.

I fixed this for you.

Seriously Pre-protting is key to being a good monk. Pre-protting can negate so much damage or stop so many conditions that cause your team to collapse to fail. It can also take a lot of work off your infuser which can be key for when the spike does get through. Stopping a spike when playing an infuser is pretty obvious... but who stops the spike on the infuser? Skills like Spirit Bond and Prot Spirit are key to helping to stop spikes on soft targets.

elektra_lucia · May 02, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

First few jokes were funny, but then it just got lame. Instead of being pricks, why not give the OP some advice?

Imo, if you are learning to monk HA isn't the best place to do it. Despite it being more challenging, monking in random is better for you because you are more able to "heal beyond red bars", i.e. you tend to look more at what's happening because there are less players. E.g, you learn to prioritize heals and spread prot with respect to what's happening (Avvy of Lyssa dervs < SB for example).

About you being spiked, your whole team needs to help against the spike. I.e, your team needs to be interrupting, kding and body blocking during spikes. Ofc you need to pre-kite too.

To answer your question:

He could have used the search function =). There is tonnes of topics on this. I can't help stupidity.

It's like a disease, yo.